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Greg Mills and Ray Hartley on the Gareth Cliff Show
Greg Mills and Ray Hartley, co-authors of ‘The Good, the Bad and the Ugly: Scenarios for South Africa’s Uncertain Future’, joined Gareth and Jack to discuss the views in their new book. We hear about the possible good outcomes, with a positive future - but also the harsh realities we could face as a country.
Published 6 February 2024
![Ray Hartley](/uploads/5b195c64-d8a0-413d-b3ac-128c36011e37.jpg)
Ray Hartley
Research Director, The Brenthurst Foundation
![Greg Mills](/uploads/e7dfa8a5-0ea2-48a8-affe-85b9089c1533.jpg)
Greg Mills
Director, The Brenthurst Foundation