Greg Mills and Ray Hartley on the Gareth Cliff Show

Greg Mills and Ray Hartley, co-authors of ‘The Good, the Bad and the Ugly: Scenarios for South Africa’s Uncertain Future’, joined Gareth and Jack to discuss the views in their new book. We hear about the possible good outcomes, with a positive future - but also the harsh realities we could face as a country.
Published 6 February 2024

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